This episode sees Dan McGowan chat with ex-opponent and Muay Thai legend Paulo Da Silva, who faced off for the UK’s number 1 spot back in 2014.

With Dan a rising star making a name for himself at just 18 years old and Paulo a veteran of the fight game who was ranked at number 1 for many many years, this talk offers a fascinating insight into the different perspectives each side had going into and coming out of the fight.